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"The most populous nation to have a unicameral parliament is Portugal." and the former colonies of portugal also have unicam. legislatures for example-mozambique and i think-angola

The People's Republic of China has one chamber for its legislature -- the National People's Congress. --Jiang 04:43, 26 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I've copied the above sentence onto the page where it belongs — Be bold! Alex756 04:46, 26 Aug 2003 (UTC)

213.48.248.39 moved this page to Unicameralism and Bicameral parliament to Bicameralism. I reverted because s/he copied and pasted instead of using the "move page" function available to signed in users and because we were not properly consulted on this page. If you believe these changes are appropriate, please make them, but use the "move page" function. --Jiang 20:57, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and moved this to unicameralism (the proper way). Hopefully, this term is generic enough for our international encyclopedia. --Minesweeper 02:09, Nov 12, 2003 (UTC)

Nebraska is the only state in the USA with a unicameral legislature. Might include it. Aaron, NE, Dec 22, 2004

Site to Expand List of Examples[edit]

If anyone has the time to do this I found a site that has a list of every unicameral and bicameral chamber, so if you have the time could you expand the list of examples.

http://www.ipu.org/parline-e/ParliamentsStructure.asp?REGION=All&LANG=ENG

Thanks, Bennyj600 (talk) 19:58, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Map is inaccurate[edit]

While the map is very nice, it contains a number of inaccuracies: Egypt and Botswana have advisory bodies alongside their elected legislatures, but these are not second chambers. Indonesia now has a bicameral legislature, while Pakistan always has (the Senate is elected by provincial assemblies). Serbia and Montenegro's parliament is now unicameral, while Burundi's always has been.

I'm working on a map that reflects the above information.

Quiensabe 09:05 UTC 6 Jul 2005

Have reloaded my map, with appropriate copyright information.

Quiensabe 11:21 UTC 3 Oct2005

POV CHeck[edit]

I propose that this article may not be NPOV, but I wish others to read it over and verify it for me. It sounds at times as though it is critical of unicameral systems, when it should be presenting the facts of a unicameral system and comparing the working of the system with those of bicameral legislatures. Davidkinnen 14:12, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

I think the US section could be construed as POV, and some of the material might be more appropriate for the Bicameralism page, not least as it deals with a shift away from unicameralism. The rest, I think, is fairly straightforward, and states why the countries that have unicameral systems have adopted them.

Quiensabe 2005-08-28 05:38 UTC

balance of content[edit]

Surely an article on unicameralism ought to be primarily about unicameral legislatures? This one is mostly about the USA (which clearly does not have a unicameral legislature). It is interesting to discuss whether a particular bicameral legislature is in some ways "really" unicameral, but such a debate belongs in the article for that legislature, rather than this article. Where are the detailed descriptions of how things work in New Zealand or Portugal? And where is the discussion of the merits of the role of appointed experts in an upper chamber, or regional representatives in the Bundesrat, or whether a longer electoral term in an upper chamber enables its members to operate above the day-to-day political hurly-burly? (I may address these myself in due course)

Mark O'Sullivan 06:15, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

HL.

While the article itself is about "Unicameralism", there seems just WAY TOO LITTLE content on the topic itself. Instead it is not only MORE focused on the United States government itself (which is bicameral) the article seems more like a critics brief POV of bicameralism it seems in general. As oppose to discussing the more detail merits (and flaws if must) of such a unicameral system.

Nebraska?[edit]

It seems to me this article should make some reference to the Nebraska Legislature as Nebraska is the only state in the US that actually has a unicameral legislature.

Disadvantages?[edit]

"Another disadvantage of unicameralism is that urban areas with large populations have more influence than sparsely populated rural ones. In many cases the only way to get sparsely populated regions on board a unified government is to implement a bicameral system (such as the early United States)."

I don't think everyone agrees with the idea that giving more representation to highly populated areas is a disadvantage. It could easily be portrayed as an advantage of Unicameralism, (One person, one vote). Not only that but starting the sentence with 'another disadvantage' seems to give the sense that Unicameralism is plagued by disadvantages. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.237.196.177 (talk • contribs) 06:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC).

Unicameralist trends within the States of the United States[edit]

Much of this subsection is irrevalant to an article on unicameralism. It's mainly about US state structure and the structure of most states upper house (the inclusion of Reynolds v. Sims is completely lost) The only valid point to unicamerilism this subsection seems makes is to note that Nebraska is the only state with a unicameral. Omahapubliclibrary (talk) 22:36, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

I've taken the paragraph on Reynolds v. Sims out because it is about the general structure of state legislatures in the US, a point that does not pretain to unicameralism. Omahapubliclibrary (talk) 22:43, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Unicameralism doesn't imply anything about Proportional Representation[edit]

Whence my flagging of the assertion in the current text. 72.228.150.44 (talk) 16:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Hence, not Whence. - BilCat (talk) 10:27, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Is this Wikipedia or grammar school? 129.78.233.211 (talk) 00:05, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Weak regional identitity[edit]

What on earth is with the crap about 'weak regional identitity' being associated with unicameralism? I'm deleting the statement as it is clearly not NPOV. 130.217.188.50 (talk) 09:40, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

It's not an absoulte statement, but merely state that it may come about for this reason. I've restored it per the Bold, Revert, discuss principle, so please build a consesus to remove this before doing so again. - BilCat (talk) 10:33, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

A reference supporting it may help if it can be found. Could it perhaps be rephrased along the lines of a homogenous culture / homogenous national identity? That would be a bit less harsh and hence seen as more NPOV. Thoughts? 129.78.233.211 (talk) 00:11, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

United Kingdom[edit]

Given that the House of Lords' legislative power has been almost entirely eliminated, rendering its votes a mere formality, wouldn't the UK Parliament be considered a de facto unicameral legislature? 75.76.213.106 (talk) 11:54, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

no the let's call it imbalance of power does not change that there are two chambers. Germany is on the list, too. Although many Germans wouldn't call the Bundesrat (Federal Council) a second chamber (a half chamber at best) either — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.5.184.243 (talk) 11:38, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

strange phrasing[edit]

"Some countries with unicameral legislatures are often small and homogeneous unitary states and consider an upper house or second chamber unnecessary." Some are often? And the others are seldom? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.14.173.51 (talk) 13:41, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

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Mauritania?[edit]

The Islamic Republic of Mauritania has recently switched to a unicameral legislature per the passing of a referendum in 2017. This page and the corresponding map should reflect the changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.110.241.134 (talk) 03:56, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Strong versus Weak Bicameralism[edit]

I think it is misleading to lump all bicameral states into one category, since it's common in bicameral legislatures for one chamber to be the dominant chamber, like in Canada, the UK, Japan, and most of continental Europe. In some weak bicameral legislatures, like Canada, the upper house rarely even uses all of its constitutional powers.

It would be helpful to show on the map which systems have strong bicameralism (eg, the US) and which systems have weak bicameralism.

Dinopup user talk:Dinopup (talk) 14:18, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

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China[edit]

It's rather misleading to say that China is Unicameral. The CPPCC is an advisory upper chamber consciously modelled on the House of Lords. It doesn't have the same formal powers as the Lords, but then the whole Chinese System works rather differently, to put it mildly! NBeale (talk) 20:10, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

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