Talk:Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge

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June 26, 2018	Good article nominee	Listed

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Opinions on transportation issues[edit]

Regarding the following statement in the article: While the high cost of the toll between Brooklyn and Staten Island has always been an issue for residents, some[who?] favor the toll because they see it as a way to curb population growth on Staten Island. Each of the four bridges to the Island is tolled.

Generally the entire spectrum of possible opinions are held by some residents about every transportation issue. Some people do want to see growth, others are against it. This comment could be made about every bridge that replaced a ferry, every airport runway, and every road. Somebody is for it, some are against it. I would suggest that it be removed as a meaningless statement unless it is supported by a poll or good news article.Pacomartin (talk)

Requested move 1 October 2018[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 21:26, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Verrazano-Narrows Bridge → Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge – The name of the bridge has always been misspelled since opening. On 1st October 2018, New York State Governor confirmed the name of the bridge would change to Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge. Governor Cuomo signs legislation to correct spelling of Verrazzano Narrows Bridge Turini2 (talk) 17:51, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 18:39, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Support, a misspelling that a good spell-checker of the time may have caught. If there had only been a Wikipedia....per Giovanni da Verrazzano. Good catch. Randy Kryn (talk) 20:08, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Support I have had some time to look into it and I think Wikipedia should use the corrected spelling. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 20:11, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Support Starting today this is effectively the name of the bridge. — Articlist (Talk) 20:11, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Support --Zimbabweed (talk) 03:12, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
Comment - per WP:COMMONNAME, the "misspelling" has been used for the past 50 years of the bridge's history, and according to the sources, the name change is being gradually phased in. I'm not strictly opposing the name change, and I wouldn't mind if this page was moved, either. epicgenius (talk) 11:51, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- Here's the thing, though. The existing references to "Verrazano", in image names and source titles, should be kept. Changing them would be incorrect. An anonymous editor already tried that, with the result that two images broke and at least three references now had incorrect titles. Also, I would say that mentions of the "Verrazano Bridge" during its construction and opening should be kept that way, because that was how it was known at the time. epicgenius (talk) 12:29, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- Support I agree. Maybe a notice could be added while people edit or on this talk page.
Support MTA has already updated the spelling at its official webpage: http://web.mta.info/bandt/html/veraz.html —74.101.35.44 (talk) 00:07, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks for the improvement[edit]

@Epicgenius: Thanks, that's a lot better! 209.209.238.189 (talk) 13:17, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

No problem. epicgenius (talk) 13:29, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

The new lead image[edit]

USS Leyte Gulf (CG 55) under the Verrazano Narrows Bridge.jpg

VerrazanoBridge.jpg

@TheEditster: While I do agree that the lead image, File:USS Leyte Gulf (CG 55) under the Verrazano Narrows Bridge.jpg needs to be replaced with another image, File:VerrazanoBridge.jpg is not better than the aerial image for several reasons:

It's grainy and very low resolution (maximum resolution is 1,125 × 717 pixels, the ship image is 1,500 × 2,100 pixels despite the preview being narrower)
The subject of the article is in the background, the foreground is a ramp and streetlamps (which distract from the main subject)
It shows even less of the bridge than the ship image does. The ship image at least shows the main span and one-and-a-half towers. The second image barely shows one tower.
The second image is already used further down in the article. epicgenius (talk) 23:06, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

I think there definitely should be another lead image, just not the one that you uploaded. epicgenius (talk) 23:07, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Then use a different image from the article, but the image you're pushing hardly captures the subject, and who says it has to be high resolution? TheEditster (talk) 00:38, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

TheEditster, A decent image would not be a low-res jpeg. The second image shows even less of the subject than the first, and as I said above, the ramps and streetlights distract from the main subject of the page. The article shouldn't look like a bunch of amateurs wrote it, but that is honestly the vibe I'm getting from the new image, because it manages to focus even less on the bridge than the boat image does. epicgenius (talk) 01:10, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Here are the lead images from different languages' versions of this page. Do you have objections to any of these? epicgenius (talk) 01:15, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons
German
French
Italian
Russian
Chinese

Not at all, the one you selected is much better. When consensus wins, the site wins. TheEditster (talk) 08:08, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

TheEditster, That's good to hear. I truly appreciate your feedback, and I agree that it's much better than either of the images we originally selected. epicgenius (talk) 12:43, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

I'd like to look for alternatives; I see that most of these, even ones with high pixel count, appear blurry/not focused properly or low-res...

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(talk) 15:01, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Do you all like File:Verrazano–Narrows Bridge 0116.jpg? Higher-res, shows more of the bridge, etc. Much more detail when zooming in.

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(talk) 15:28, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Ɱ, sure, we can go with that. epicgenius (talk) 16:49, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion[edit]

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion:

Verrazzano Narrows Bridge.jpg

You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. —Community Tech bot (talk) 18:22, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Name of bridge locally[edit]

Locally the bridge is simply known as the Verrazzano and I think it should be added to the header. La Fuzion (K lo K) 20:19, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

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