Talk:Metatron
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Metatron in Islam[edit]
If anyone is interested in the Islamic view of Metatron (Mitatrush) then here's a few books to check out:
Angels in Islam: Jalal Al-Din Al-Suyuti's Al-Haba'ik Fi Akhbar Al-mala'ik
Magic in Islam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.230.184.59 (talk) 21:56, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
removed comment[edit]
I removed this comment from inside an url:
I'm just adding, putting this out there: in gimatria Metatron מטטרון is also the same numerical value as "י"ה"ו"ה זעירא", aramaic for "lesser YHVH", so it seems that's solved!
(זעירא is also the letters אזעיר - Uzair, (mentioned in the Koran,) maybe connected to Ezra - עזרא.)
Also, to explain the significance of "Shaddai": at least in later kabala, the 10 sefirot correspond to 10 names of God. שד"י "Shaddai" is the name that corresponds to Yesod, directly underneath the sefira of Tiferet, which corresponds to the name YHVH the name
While this clearly does not belong inside an reference (or inside the article body as long as it is in this form), may be someone is still interested in this. So I copied it to the talk page. Gehenna1510 (talk) 19:54, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Reverted claim about Jesus[edit]
An edit on August 23, 2019 inserted the following line: "Jesus is the Son of Man and the Ancient of Days is his Almighty Father." It inserted this immediately in front of a pre-existing citation This citation (on page 152) actually says that there is evidence that some Christians depicted Jesus as "The Ancient of Days" from Daniel. That is not what the Jewish and Islamic traditions being discussed in this context believe at all. The sentence, perhaps unintentionally, departs from a NPoV and declares a different religious belief correct. I therefore removed this sentence.
If there is a Christian tradition about Metatron, it would be relevant to discuss Christian beliefs in that context, and to attribute them to a proper source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:558:6025:63:21e8:c6f2:5599:a149 (talk) 21:47, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
The "In Popular Culture" section is way too long.[edit]
Is it really necessary, for example, to summarize the entire plot of "Dogma," in which Metatron has only a few minutes of screen time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.75.33.51 (talk) 02:10, 13 January 2020 (UTC) I agree. That shit is embarrassing and so unencyclopedic. There doesn't need to be two big paragraphs about the fucking connection to Supernatural. I don't know how a grown-up can read through this article without rolling their eyes and realizing the problem. 75.129.50.183 (talk) 05:30, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Yes you are right, most of the popular culture section does not compile with the Wikipedia guidlines for popular culture WP:POPCULTURE. Often anonymous users add all references to a certain topic found somewhere in popular culture and add extensive stories about them, often without any source, or signs of significance. It is not that someones reads it and thinks "oh pretty good", rather, one disregards it, especially since it is at the bottom of the article, like "well, it is bad but it is probably not too bad". Here, after I looked at it, it obviously is. Similar problems we find in other articles abouut angels and demons, such as Asmodeus and IFrit. In the Ifrit article it stopped, since it became a GA article. The Asmodeus article is frequently trimed but not set on high standarts yet. This article however, has an espeially bad pop-culture section, I will look up today. Thanks for pointing it out.--VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 12:49, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
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