Talk:Edward Gibbon Wakefield

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Misc[edit]

I am still working on it ping 07:56, 13 Sep 2003 (UTC)

The opening paragraph should encapsulate his career. User:Wetman

Wakefieldian Colonization Theories[edit]

Doing some editing on Joseph Despard Pemberton I came across the reference to Wakefield and the Dictionary of Canadian Biography piece referred to in the article in the Further Reading section. Looking at the article in the same Biography source on Pemberton there is reference to him following Wakefieldian principles for colonization and then later in the article of his abandonment of those ideas. Apparently Wakefield, despite his pecadillos, had significance in this way that seems to be overlooked in this article. I was going to link to the Wakefield article on this point, but lacking mention of his theories I guess I won't for now. Since there seems to have been a lot of work done on this article, I thought some mention of the regard his theories seem to have had might be useful here.. KenWalker | Talk 23:08, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Wakefield Street, Auckland...[edit]

I presume the Auckland Street bearing the name after this Scoundrel? NevilleDNZ 11:24, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, at least according to John Davenport's Street Names of Auckland. -- Avenue 12:18, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian (talk) 13:06, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Edward Gibbon Wakefield → Gibbon Wakefield – In A History of Canterbury (Vol 2),^[1] he is consistently referred to as Gibbon Wakefield. I see that there has been a Gibbon Wakefield redirect since 2007. His DNZB biography, on the other hand, always mentions him as Edward Gibbon Wakefield. I'd trust the 'Canterbury Centennial Historical and Literary Committee' more to have this correct than the DNZB editor, to be honest. Schwede 66 07:34, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Oppose move. I don't see why that source should be trusted over almost all others. I've checked all the online sources cited in our article, or in the Further reading section: the 1966 Encyclopedia of NZ (two entries), Philip Temple's 2002 book (at least the introduction), Marx, DNZB, and the Dictionary of Canadian Biography Online. They all refer to him as Edward Gibbon Wakefield (except Marx, who only refers to him as E. G. Wakefield or just Wakefield). I do see that one of the many references cited in the Canadian biography refers to him simply as Gibbon Wakefield, so this is not just an invention of the Canterbury Committee, but it certainly does not seem to be the name most commonly used to refer to him. We should therefore keep the Gibbon Wakefield redirect, but leave the article where it is. --Avenue (talk) 12:42, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
Oppose, he is called Edward Gibbon Wakefield by the Australian Dictionary of Biography^[2] and Australian historians.--Grahame (talk) 01:05, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Comment His full name is listed as "Edward Gibbon Wakefield" in the lede, but if you look at the second paragraph it does call him "Gibbon" initially, then "Wakefield" after that. If you search for "by Gibbon Wakefield" in Google there are many other references which call him just "Gibbon Wakefield". I presume this was to distinguish him from his father, who was named Edward. --Canley (talk) 22:30, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Oppose move. The lede does need to be rewritten though. Stuartyeates (talk) 20:39, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

^ W. J. Gardner, ed. (1971). A History of Canterbury. Christchurch: Whitcombe & Tombs Limited. pp. 13, 42, 54. ISBN 0 7233 0321 5. |access-date= requires |url= (help)
^ "Wakefield, Edward Gibbon (1796–1862)". Australian Dictionary of Biography.

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Assessment comment[edit]

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Good article - needs some citations for 'B' class. Coemgenus 14:35, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

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[History_Canterbury_vol_2-1] W. J. Gardner, ed. (1971). A History of Canterbury. Christchurch: Whitcombe & Tombs Limited. pp. 13, 42, 54. ISBN 0 7233 0321 5. |access-date= requires |url= (help)

[2] "Wakefield, Edward Gibbon (1796–1862)". Australian Dictionary of Biography.

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