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Good articleGreco-Persian Wars has been listed as one of the History good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Good topic starGreco-Persian Wars is the main article in the Battles of the Greco-Persian Wars series, a good topic. This is identified as among the best series of articles produced by the Wikipedia community. If you can update or improve it, please do so.
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DateProcessResult
August 2, 2006WikiProject peer reviewReviewed
September 7, 2006WikiProject A-class reviewApproved
September 23, 2006Good article nomineeNot listed
June 19, 2008WikiProject A-class reviewDemoted
December 4, 2009Good article nomineeListed
October 18, 2010Good topic candidatePromoted
Current status: Good article

"the Allies"[edit]

Throughout much of the article, the alliance of Greek city-states is referred to as the "Allies". I find this rather odd, as it is reminiscent of World War 2 terminology, and moreover, the alliance of Greek city-states is not referred to as the "Allies" in the literature. Terms such as "Greek city-states", "Greeks", or "allied Greek city-states" are used, but I have never seen a source that refers to them simply as the "Allies" with a capital A. Athenean (talk) 21:24, 9 October 2011 (UTC)................Reply[reply]

I made the exact same comment for the Battle of Artemisium article, which is replete with references to "the Allies"--is that a Tom Holland term? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.44.249.17 (talk) 00:53, 13 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Title?[edit]

"Greco-Persian Wars" as the title of this page is blatantly eurocentric and incorrectly implies that these were the first or most significant wars fought between the Achaemenid Empire and the Greeks. The page should be renamed "Greek Reconquest of Macedon, Thrace and Ionia." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.249.25.143 (talk) 19:20, 17 July 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This is further strengthened by the statement that appears at the beginning of the article (and Google search results which include this page): "Greeks are awesome." Someone has included a template or some such that includes this text automatically since it is not part of the editable text of this article. Pfrowe (talk) 17:46, 14 April 2014 (UTC) what a nice historyReply[reply]

Stats on names[edit]

I had always heard these conflicts referred to as the Persian Wars, and indeed that already redirects here. So I was going to go ahead and put in an WP:RM. The main obstacle I could see to that was the potential confusion for other Persian Wars, especially the Roman–Persian Wars. But if that's seen as a major problem, perhaps Persian Wars should be a dab. As such, I think the status quo WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is quite correct. Some of the searches below for "Persian Wars" do refer to the Roman wars, but the majority do not. The current form is somewhat more common in a general Google search, but much less in more focused searches:

"persian wars" -wikipedia "greco-persian wars" -wikipedia
Google 365,000 525,000
Google Books 200,000 33,500
Google Scholar 11,800 641
JSTOR 3794 100

That said, it's logical that the shorter form would return more hits since it's included within the longer one—which is why the general Google hits are especially confusing. While I still suspect "Persian Wars" is the WP:COMMONNAME, factors like this give me enough pause to not formally request a move at this point. --BDD (talk) 23:16, 14 October 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Alexander the Great[edit]

The Greco-Persian wars have continued at the time of the Alexander the Great. Since it was Macedon and the rest of the Greek states vs the Persians again and at the same era, it is appropriate to expand the current article to that and inappropriate not to do so, since that was a major part of it and its conclusion. If others agree as well, you can state it here, in order to start adding that in the article as well Jazz1972 (talk) 14:48, 15 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Jazz1972: The Greco-Persian Wars are generally considered to have ended in around 450 BC. The wars of Alexander the Great are considered a separate topic. We base our articles on reliable sources and the reliable sources in this case do not consider the later wars of Alexander the Great as part of the Greco-Persian Wars. --Katolophyromai (talk) 15:19, 15 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Updating a bibliographic source[edit]

Hi,
I would like to update the bibliographic source by Encyclopedia Britannica (it has no author) so that it now can have the name of the editor (Michael Ray, as stated in the website), archive URL, and authors ("The editors of the Encyclopedia Britannica" as recommended in Encyclopedia Britannica itself):

|author=The editors of the Encyclopedia Britannica |date=8 May 2020 |url=https://www.britannica.com/event/Greco-Persian-Wars |access-date=19 July 2021 |editor1-first=Michael |editor1-last=Ray |title=Greco-Persian Wars |work=Encyclopedia Britannica |archive-date=15 June 2015 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150615022450/https://www.britannica.com/event/Greco-Persian-Wars

--177.227.43.209 (talk) 22:08, 19 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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