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The Fleurdelisé takes its fleurs de lis from the banner of the king of France, and its blue field and white cross from the ancient national flag of the same country." I believe this would be correct if it read "The Fleurdelisé takes its fleurs de lis from the banner of the Bourbon kings of France." I believe there was never a white cross on the French flag. User:WetmanT

There was a white cross on some French flags at the time of New France. I remember two square flags of the time, one blue, one red (with a white cross on each). This design partly inspired the Drapeau de Carillon. --Liberlogos 15:05, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
The white cross on a blue background is actually called the cross of Saint Michel and was used in France since The Hundred Years war, often as the French counterpart to England's St George's cross. Several French regiments in the 17th century, for example during the Spanish War of Succession or the Seven Years War (the French and Indian war in America), had that cross on their respective colors. It was also used as a merchant navy flag. 187.73.191.164 (talk) 17:57, 26 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
the blue flag with the white cross was a french merchant flag. the white cross itself was considered a french symbol before the revolution and could be found on most french regimental flag.--Marc pasquin 1 July 2005 19:37 (UTC)

The Coat of Arms of the City Chalons-sur-Marne (now officially Chalons-en-Champagne) is identical in every way to the flag of Québec. Chalons-sur-Marne is the birth place of Jean Talon, First Intendant of La Nouvelle France and the city in which he is buried. The origins of the flag, therefore, are found in the very beginning of the history of Quèbec and not just to the Carillon flag..--[User:John R.F. Gillis ]18 August 2007 12:30 (CET)

Most excellent source[edit]

For those interested in the subject, I have found a really good English language source on the history of Quebec's flag. It is very accurate and comparable to various texts I read on the same subject in French. Here is the link:

http://fraser.cc/FlagsCan/Provinces/Quebec.html

The site contains much info on the flags of the other provinces and the federal state.

-- Mathieugp 22:20, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Ca-qc!c3.gif[edit]

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If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 03:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Assessment[edit]

I have assessed this as Start Class, as it contains more detail and organization than would be expected of a Stub, and of low importance, as it is a highly specific topic within Canada. Cheers, CP 22:46, 29 October 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Blue ensign...delete[edit]

There is an image in this article showing a "hypothetical" Quebec blue ensign (File:British Flag of Quebec.svg) which apparently was never used, and may have never existed. In cursory research, I have discovered that no such flag was ever official, at least. All of which begs the question: Why is this image here? If there is no historical basis for it, I suggest deletion. By the way, on this January 21st, a very happy Quebec Flag Day to all! Yoho2001 (talk) 22:37, 21 January 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I saw the deletion nomination over at Wikimedia Commons, which led me here. I would agree that the flag, and the references to it, should be deleted from the article. While prospective flags can sometimes be encyclopedic (the Pearson Pennant comes to mind), I don't get the sense that the blue ensign in this case was even that. The content sounds to me more like a the speculation of a Wikipedian, contrary to WP:OR. If someone later on can provide reliable sources showing that the blue ensign was legitimately in the mix at one time as a potential flag for the province, then the flag and appropriate references can be added back to the article. But until then, I agree that it ought to be deleted. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 14:28, 27 January 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Similar flags[edit]

@VulpesVulpes42: I have removed your addition of "Similar flags". You may not have noticed, but only the day before your edit, I had removed a similar section. That section contained two flags, the flags of Georgia (country) and Martinique. Your suggested addition of a third flag illustrates the problems with the whole idea of "Similar flags" sections: Similarity is highly subjective, and since there are no common criteria for what constitutes similarity, any choice will be original research. There are circumstances where similarity of flags is of interest, like in the flag of Chad article, where there is sourced information about flag similarity having caused international problems. In most cases, however, similarity has no encyclopedic value. Regards! --T*U (talk) 07:59, 18 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@TU-nor: I had in fact not noticed your reversal of a previous attempt of an addition of a "Similar flags" section. Your arguments are valid, and I do not plan to revert your edit. My justification at the time was the fact that many other articles were doing it. That is all I had to say. - VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 08:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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